Phaedrus

The Neural Buddhists -- David Brooks and Tom Wolfe

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[this is good]
I am so tired of dichotomies and am becoming so biased against the false ones that I tend to view anything that makes a binary distinction as false, which given my nearly 40 years in computers may not be all that sensible.

It is a mystery to me how anyone can view the absolute denial of God, the soul, the afterlife or anything transcendental as scientific. How, precisely do you prove a negative assertion such as that? I wish they would walk me through the experimental method and show how you get there.

I alternate between calling myself a Devout Agnostic and a Deist because neither quite captures the fact that I believe in a God whom I find it next to impossible to define, despite the fact that I am certain that neither science nor logic allow us to know whether such a being exists or does not.

As I ponder Goedel's prof, that for any system as complex as arithmetic there are truths within that system that cannot be proven it suggests (but does not prove) two things to me. The first is that science and human knowledge is considerably more complex than arithmetic and so must always be incomplete, and there will always be unprovable truths about the world. This is one of the groundings of my agnosticism, an agnosticism that encompasses not only God, the soul and theology, but many truths in every branch of science and philosophy.

The second is, that if there is a source of truths outside any given system, is that not at least the suggestion that there are Truths outside of all systems, or to put it differently a Source of Truths outside of all systems. This is the beginning of one of the groundings of my Deism, of my belief in an Unmoved Mover and Uncaused Cause. (My full reasoning there borrows from many disciplines from quantum to thermodynamics to Process philosophy.)

So, I'll have to agree with you. Science promises us both knowledge and mysteries. It teaches us that we cannot know everything and that we can know tremendous amouns. It provide for me an inkling, a hint, that there is Something Beyond, while telling us that it can tell us nothing ot Its Nature.

What a wonderful world where science is the source of knowledge and wonder.

Brons
The only thing I am about absolutely certain of is that the Bible is hogwash and so is every other organized religion. It's funny you call yourself an Agnostic Deist, that's what I refer to myself as.
Thanks for the thoughtful words.
I will say that in talking to a lot of Atheists, they always say that science does not preclude God or say that there is no God, it only renders a God unnecessary for the explanation of life.

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